up and the crank clears, and oil filter mods are not needed. the SZ pan is much easier. my problem with the SZ pan is that is always a 6 week wait cause they dont have pre built pans on hand, just invest in some core in my opinion. The EP pan is usually in stock at CZP and CZP gives be a better price break than EP direct boooooo, czp says they have sold most of them to me ive done 8 installations.